Comments for Packershow http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com a Green Bay Packers podcast for fans, by fans Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:51:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 Comment on Packershow Season 3 Episode 10 by Zack from So-Cal http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/archives/73#comment-274 Zack from So-Cal Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:27:31 +0000 http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/?p=73#comment-274 Don't apologize for your ranting Ross. Ranting simply signifies a true and passionate fan. Don’t apologize for your ranting Ross. Ranting simply signifies a true and passionate fan.

]]> Comment on Better in the middle…Hawk or Barnett? by Zack from So-Cal http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/archives/75#comment-270 Zack from So-Cal Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:03:53 +0000 http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/?p=75#comment-270 I admittedly don't know enough about the Xs and Os of our defense to determine which guy fits which position the best, and one solid game at the mike for Hawk doesn't necessarily mean he would be great or even good there for the future. But I do hope that the coaching staff will look at the situation with an open mind in the off-season. Barnett seems like a team player and I would hope that he wouldn't take it personally if they switch him and Hawk. He can still be the leader of the defense playing outside. Hawk has 10-15 pounds on him, so if they could both go back to their natural spots that they played in college and be more comfortable there I believe the coaching staff owes it to the team to at least experiment with it in training camp. Hopefully Barnett will be fully recovered by then. I admittedly don’t know enough about the Xs and Os of our defense to determine which guy fits which position the best, and one solid game at the mike for Hawk doesn’t necessarily mean he would be great or even good there for the future.

But I do hope that the coaching staff will look at the situation with an open mind in the off-season. Barnett seems like a team player and I would hope that he wouldn’t take it personally if they switch him and Hawk. He can still be the leader of the defense playing outside. Hawk has 10-15 pounds on him, so if they could both go back to their natural spots that they played in college and be more comfortable there I believe the coaching staff owes it to the team to at least experiment with it in training camp. Hopefully Barnett will be fully recovered by then.

]]> Comment on Better in the middle…Hawk or Barnett? by John Morgan http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/archives/75#comment-266 John Morgan Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:08:36 +0000 http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/?p=75#comment-266 Hawk is better. Barnett was very fast, and could often range from side-to-side to follow a play, but it set him up to be 'influenced' by blockers. Hawk is nearly as quick, but more solid. An anchor if you will. The only concern when he joined the team was that it wasn't his 'natural' position and that he might be confused or overwhelmed by the responsibility. I think last week proved that that was a groundless fear. Overall Hawk's demeanor is better also. Nick seemed to try and hype himself up before a game to get an edge. Hawk is more even-tempered, with that sleepy-eyed focus that changes instantly when the play begins, very reminiscent of how Brian Urlacher plays and talks. Hawk should stay in the middle for the most part, except for particular sets. I was impressed at how he reacted to no-huddle also. Hawk is better. Barnett was very fast, and could often range from side-to-side to follow a play, but it set him up to be ‘influenced’ by blockers. Hawk is nearly as quick, but more solid. An anchor if you will. The only concern when he joined the team was that it wasn’t his ‘natural’ position and that he might be confused or overwhelmed by the responsibility. I think last week proved that that was a groundless fear.

Overall Hawk’s demeanor is better also. Nick seemed to try and hype himself up before a game to get an edge. Hawk is more even-tempered, with that sleepy-eyed focus that changes instantly when the play begins, very reminiscent of how Brian Urlacher plays and talks.

Hawk should stay in the middle for the most part, except for particular sets. I was impressed at how he reacted to no-huddle also.

]]> Comment on Better in the middle…Hawk or Barnett? by Matt of Seattle http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/archives/75#comment-264 Matt of Seattle Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:26:45 +0000 http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/?p=75#comment-264 I think hawk will settle in quickly i wouldn't say he's better then Barnett but i think the packers as a unit will be fine. I think hawk will settle in quickly i wouldn’t say he’s better then Barnett but i think the packers as a unit will be fine.

]]> Comment on Better in the middle…Hawk or Barnett? by Patrick Castleberg http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/archives/75#comment-263 Patrick Castleberg Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:47:32 +0000 http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/?p=75#comment-263 Well Hawk showed me more instincts in the middle in one game then I've seen from Barnett in 5 years... I like Barnett, but I would like to see him on the outside with Hawk on the inside and see how that works out. Well Hawk showed me more instincts in the middle in one game then I’ve seen from Barnett in 5 years…

I like Barnett, but I would like to see him on the outside with Hawk on the inside and see how that works out.

]]> Comment on Packershow Season 3 Episode 9 by Chris Carnall http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/archives/71#comment-232 Chris Carnall Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:48:26 +0000 http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/?p=71#comment-232 Thanks both for expanding on your previous remarks. It is interesting to reflect that last year we won the close games, whilst this year ... not so much! Maybe we were not as good as we seemed last year - and are not as bad as we sometimes seem this year? We are still a young team, and with a developing QB these sorts of games will happen - painful and frustrating as they are. But, to take up Patrick's point, we do appear to be struggling in the trenches, and if the OL and DL / run defense cave in, then everything else collapses around them. We now need someone to step up at LB the way Tramon Williams has at CB. And again, we need consistently good play across all 4 quarters. A loss to the Bears this week, and the season is looking ugly! Chris Thanks both for expanding on your previous remarks. It is interesting to reflect that last year we won the close games, whilst this year … not so much! Maybe we were not as good as we seemed last year - and are not as bad as we sometimes seem this year?

We are still a young team, and with a developing QB these sorts of games will happen - painful and frustrating as they are. But, to take up Patrick’s point, we do appear to be struggling in the trenches, and if the OL and DL / run defense cave in, then everything else collapses around them.

We now need someone to step up at LB the way Tramon Williams has at CB. And again, we need consistently good play across all 4 quarters. A loss to the Bears this week, and the season is looking ugly!

Chris

]]> Comment on Packershow Season 3 Episode 9 by Patrick Castleberg http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/archives/71#comment-231 Patrick Castleberg Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:45:04 +0000 http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/?p=71#comment-231 I hear you Ross, Until this team learns discipline (what happened between last year and this year) and learns to tackle below/at the waste and through the ball carrier we will continue to struggle. The sad thing is we had a punt return TD and INT return TD, 3 INTs and yet in the end I have to put the D in the UGLY category because for the 3rd (or is it 4th) time this year they completely folded in crunch time when they HAD to get a stop. Thats really the difference from this year to last year. Last year we had games our D, O or STs took turns struggling and the games were close but yet we still found a way to win. This years team just can't close out the close games and find ways to win. For all MM and TT's talk about winning/being strong in the trenches this team is TERRIBLE right now in the trenches and its going to continue to struggle until they can turn that around. I hear you Ross,

Until this team learns discipline (what happened between last year and this year) and learns to tackle below/at the waste and through the ball carrier we will continue to struggle.

The sad thing is we had a punt return TD and INT return TD, 3 INTs and yet in the end I have to put the D in the UGLY category because for the 3rd (or is it 4th) time this year they completely folded in crunch time when they HAD to get a stop. Thats really the difference from this year to last year.

Last year we had games our D, O or STs took turns struggling and the games were close but yet we still found a way to win. This years team just can’t close out the close games and find ways to win.

For all MM and TT’s talk about winning/being strong in the trenches this team is TERRIBLE right now in the trenches and its going to continue to struggle until they can turn that around.

]]> Comment on Packershow Season 3 Episode 9 by Ross http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/archives/71#comment-230 Ross Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:06:48 +0000 http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/?p=71#comment-230 Patrick ~ I agree with you that it was nice to see him on the field. I thought he played average but I have been excessively frustrated with the incorrect technique by our defensive lineman and our linebackers. Harrell was the obvious source of this frustration because he was WAY out of position on that run and didn't control his gap...the linebackers were then out of position and so on. It wasn't all Justin Harrell's fault and for most of the game he did all right. I am left scratching my head as to why our line and LB's are playing incorrect gap technique which is allowing 100's of yards of rushing per game. I wish I knew if it was coaching or execution... Sorry ~ I get a little frustrated about this...I will try to maintain more objectivity with Mr. Harrell... Patrick ~
I agree with you that it was nice to see him on the field. I thought he played average but I have been excessively frustrated with the incorrect technique by our defensive lineman and our linebackers. Harrell was the obvious source of this frustration because he was WAY out of position on that run and didn’t control his gap…the linebackers were then out of position and so on. It wasn’t all Justin Harrell’s fault and for most of the game he did all right. I am left scratching my head as to why our line and LB’s are playing incorrect gap technique which is allowing 100’s of yards of rushing per game. I wish I knew if it was coaching or execution…

Sorry ~ I get a little frustrated about this…I will try to maintain more objectivity with Mr. Harrell…

]]> Comment on Packershow Season 3 Episode 9 by Patrick Castleberg http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/archives/71#comment-229 Patrick Castleberg Sun, 09 Nov 2008 03:16:35 +0000 http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/?p=71#comment-229 I didn't mention Harrell on purpose...he wasn't good enough to be in the good but it was good just to see him back. I was certainly surprised to hear Ross hammer on him in the show. While he wasn't fantastic he certainly held his own in his first action back. And you can say he was out of position on one run all you want but both the LBs got completely washed out of that play as well (as they have been all season)....If our run D is going to get back to where it was last year then we are going to have to see MUCH better play from both Hawk and Barnett. I didn’t mention Harrell on purpose…he wasn’t good enough to be in the good but it was good just to see him back. I was certainly surprised to hear Ross hammer on him in the show. While he wasn’t fantastic he certainly held his own in his first action back.

And you can say he was out of position on one run all you want but both the LBs got completely washed out of that play as well (as they have been all season)….If our run D is going to get back to where it was last year then we are going to have to see MUCH better play from both Hawk and Barnett.

]]> Comment on Packershow Season 3 Episode 9 by Chris Carnall http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/archives/71#comment-228 Chris Carnall Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:15:29 +0000 http://packershow.berserkerproductions.com/?p=71#comment-228 Hi Patrick Thanks for that - thought-provoking, as ever! You'll be in trouble for not mentioning Justin Harrell ;-) Chris Hi Patrick

Thanks for that - thought-provoking, as ever!

You’ll be in trouble for not mentioning Justin Harrell ;-)

Chris

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